Playoffs/Super Bowl
Wild Card Weekend
NY Jets at Cincinnati – Bill Leavy
Philadelphia at Dallas – Ed Hochuli
Baltimore at New England – Gene Steratore
Green Bay at Arizona – Scott Green
Divisional Playoffs
Arizona at New Orleans – Ron Winter
Baltimore at Indianapolis – Carl Cheffers
Dallas at Minnesota – Walt Anderson
NY Jets at San Diego – Jerome Boger
Conference Championships
NY Jets at Indianapolis – Tony Corrente
Minnesota at New Orleans - Pete Morelli
Pro Bowl
NFC at AFC – Jeff Triplette
Super Bowl
New Orleans at Indianapolis – Scott Green
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I just finished watching the Cardinals-Packers game. I now remember why I stopped watch all sports but football most of alll. The refereeing is SOOOOOO BAAAAAAD it is almost comical. At first I was mad because the Cards won, then I realized the Cards were only the beneficiary of some really bad calls. When can a receiver run threough a defender and knock him down and not get called for illegal contact and then score a touchdown? And it was right out in the open. Even the announcers were asking how they missed it. Then on the last play of the game there should have been a facemask call on the Cards but no, It’s a touchdown! I NOW remember why I stop watching all sports. It just isn’t any fun to watch BAD refereeing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steratore’s great. I was in attendance at the SD/DAL Week 13 matchup, and I thought he did a great job. You all seem to think that this won’t be his year for the SB because he’s only been in the League a couple years, but I think a SB is definitely in his near future if he keeps it up.
Also, a little bit on that officiating collapse in GB/ARI. Not sure why they didn’t call a Helmet-to-Helmet on the play Rogers got hit…wouldn’t have been roughing the passer because, well, he wasn’t a passer on that play, but it still shoulda been called. Also, Peter King explained why the facemask wasn’t called on the last play:
“The referee, Scott Green, stands behind the pocket and has to watch first for the loose ball. Once the ball is out, Green’s job is to watch ball for possession. He can’t watch the QB then. If he saw the facemask, it’d mean he wasn’t watching ball. It’s a quirky rule, but it’s the referee’s call — and the ref is charged with possession once the ball is loose.”
So, the circumstances called for Green to NOT be looking at the facemask of the QB, which meant according to league protocol, Green did the right thing. Dumb rule, but what would we have said if Green flubbed the possession call in some way? (Assuming it could have been flubbed) He did what he was supposed to do, unfortunately enough. Can’t explain any of the other stuff though (Fitz rolling over a DB like a speed bump, for instance)
OK he is watching the ball, on the front page of the Wisconsin State Journal you can see the ball is coming out and you CAN ALSO SEE THE DEFENDERS HAND ON THE FACE MASK of Arron ROdgers. So again I ask why wasn’t AZ called for face masking?
What are the other refs doing?
There were several cases of holding by Green bay which was not called
Jan
Baltimore at New England. See what happened when a quality officiating crew works a game!!!
Steratore’s crew did an excellent job, and had the camera angle been a bit higher, he would have had conclusive visual evidence of the successful two point conversion.
Hopefully, Ron Winter and his crew were watching!
give me a break Len. Patriots won week 4 vs the Ravens on there own. Lay off Ron Winter
Actually i have to admit the officiating was pretty poor in the week 4 game. They called cheap roughing the passer flags on Brady. Plus Clayton dropped a open pass late. The Ravens should have won in week 4. They were the better team as they proved again yesterday. Too many cheap penalties went the Pats way in week 4. The refs were fair yesterday, hence the better team won. Steratore and his crew are excellent.
I agree, Celtics_gurl. Steratore and company were fantastic. Only eight total penalties in the game and — this is key for any officiating crew — you barely knew they were there… except for replays, of course.
By the way, folks, we can eliminate Parry for BAL/IND. He did their game on Nov. 22… but I think Parry is another good young ref, like Steratore.
- Joey P
Let’s see how he does in New Orleans this week. Maybe there will be so much scoring he won’t have a chance to mess up. Besides, which of the QB’s will he protect?
And by the way, I was at the Pat’s vs Ravens game, then watched it again. The questionable penalty and crucial poor spots by his crew were dreadful. How they managed a playoff game is likely due to poor scores by other crews rather than their own merit.
The replay did show that the ball broke the plain and it should have been a succesful 2 point conversion. But Baltimore was so dominant over NE it really didnt matter. They came out and really hammered the Patriots.
does anyone know who is reffing the games this weekend? thank you
Can confirm:
NO – Winter
Ind — Cheffers
Min — Anderson
SD — Boger
McAulay an ALT
I really hope you are wrong about Winter. New Orleans and Arizona should be a great matchup and I don’t want Winter to ruin it. Cheffers and Anderson definitely deserve it. I am surprised by Boger, but not as surprised as Green this week or the possibility of Winter. With that said, I’d say that the championship games must be Mike Carey and Tony Corrente as I cannot see either of them being left out of the playoffs.
I’d rather Winter than Anderson. I feel sorry for the Vikes & Cowboys. Anderson’s crew leads the league in accepeted penalties per game and is 2nd in yards per penalty. And for Vikes fans has by far the lowest winning % for home teams.
I have to disagree with Steven. Walt Anderson does an excellent job and is one of the best in the league.
I’ve been reading your posts, seems as if you have an inside track on officials being named to certain games. I’m wondering if you know about certain referees and coaches past experiences. Because….if Ron Winter is the head official for the saints game, then we’re (saints fan) screwed! I did a little research and Sean Payton was fined only a year ago for criticizing Ron Winter’s crew. Now, I know we are all professionals and those things SHOULD just blow over, but I know that there must be a bit of bad blood between the two (Payton and Winter). I’m HOPING that you are either wrong about the assignment OR that the commissioner will look into this and reassign another referee to the game. Maybe the ALT that you disclosed-McAulay (who isn’t much better). Just to give my two sense….best referee is Mike Carey followed closely by Jeff Triplette
One thing that I think the average fan doesn’t appreciate is that the NFL officials’ evaluation process is so rigorous that if an official shaded calls one way or the other, for whatever reason, it would be easily discovered. There is such a razor-thin difference in the season’s grades between the first- and last-ranked official at each position that one or two missed calls (fouls called that shouldn’t have been, or not called that should have been, with the former hurting grade-wise more than the latter) can put an official in the top- or bottom-tier. The bottom line is that no official can afford to let biases interfere with performance, even assuming he was inclined to do so, because it could kill his chances of a playoff and, ultimately, put him out of the league.
Terry McAulay is the best referee in the NFL. He got a Conference Championship game in his first year of eligibility and has worked seceral since and two Super Bowls. that puts him in Ed Hochuli and Jerry Markbreit/Bob McElway territory.
Thanks for the info Vet. Those are some good assignments in the Divisional round. Here are my Conference Championship/Super Bowl guesses:
NFC- McCauley
AFC- Corrente
Super Bowl- Boger
Coates, McAulay is an alternate this weekend, so he won’t be working anymore. I’d say Mike Carey in McAulay’s place, and Walt Anderson with the SuperBowl…
Boger has only be reffing for like 4 years (maybe 5?) so I think he is still too new at the white hat spot…He became a head ref the same year Steratore did…
Okay thank you, I didn’t realize being an alternate eliminated an official from working next weekend. Can someone please tell me why McCauley is not working the playoffs? I think he is one of the best in the league.
I don’t care how many years Boger has been working. He is very good and deserves the Super Bowl.
I can’t quite figure out why McAulay did not get an assignment…I think he is definitely one of , if not the best refs. Rumor has it that he is replacing Pereira, so maybe that is why, so as not to show favoritism or something…I disagree about Boger though…He is maybe 8th at best.
(McAulay, Corrente, Cheffers, Anderson, Leavy, Hochuli and Steratore are definitely all better)
Boger does not qualify for Super Bowl. He needs to have five years at referee position plus at least one Conference Chamionship game. He has neither.
Are Tony Corrente and Walt Coleman the referees for the AFC/NFC title games?
Not sure Line. Maybe Russ can tell you.
More likely it will be Mike Carey and Terry McAulay.
I thought Mccauley was an alternate
my predictions:
DAL@MIN CHEFFERS
NYJ@SD RIVERON
ARZ@NO ANDERSON
BLT@IND BOGER
Winter, Cheffers, Anderson, and Boger are not predictions. They’re confirmed.
As a Patriots fan and having been at the game yesterday – I’m of the opinion that maybe we shouldn’t be quite so quick to consider Steratore so HOF worthy just yet.
I made it a point to watch the Ravens Offensive Line play (with my binoculars in tow). There was blatant holding many times, and I wouldn’t even call their first run from scrimmage above reproach. Not one Holding Call on 52 Ravens running plays. I was appalled.
Now, I’m not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome — but come on. I’m also beside myself over the lack of a call on the pass play to Ben Watson later in the game when he was mugged in the secondary. He was Grabbed with two hands by the defender well before the ball arrived right in front of the whole world to see. The Pat’s had an outside chance of making it an interesting finish should the proper call have been made right there. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for that not to have been called correctly!!!
Now I’m paying good money, freezing my arse off at this game and as a Pat’s season ticket holder would expect a fair shake on the calls. Especially with home field advantage for the game…..Please don’t give Steratore more credit than he deserves….
New England got away with some holds as well Tom. I cannot believe you are blaming the refs for the Patriots loss. Baltimore outplayed them all afternoon. If you watch really closely, you could interpret holding on about every play on both sides, but this is football let them play. The bottom line is Baltimore dominated New England yesterday and won rather easily. Gene Steratore’s crew was terrific and let the 2 teams play. The first game in week 4 was marred by bad calls that favored New England. The Patriots didn’t look like a playoff team yesterday. They were pummeled big time.
Tom,
The only blown call favored the Patriots. On the muffed punt, the Pats player never had possession in bounds. The ball should have stayed with the Ravens. The only way the Pats could score a first half TD was because of a blown call.
Folks, please don’t let Toms sour grapes comments make you think all Patriot fans are sore losers. We definately lost to the better team yesterday and the referees were very good. In fact, Baltimore had more reason to complain. I saw multiple instances where number 92 on Baltimore got held blatantly and there was no call. There also was illegal contact on Baltimore receivers not called on the Patriot Db’s. I was shocked how many times the Patriot’s O line was allowed to hold the Baltimore D Line. It was dissappointing way to end the season, but I want to congratulate the Ravens on a great win. They really dominated us from start to finish.
I agree with Coates_87–The Pats got outplayed in every aspect of the game. The one call I agree was incorrect was the muffed punt return by Baltimore, as the Patriot who recovered the ball never clearly had possession prior to going out of bounds. I was surprised that the Baltimore coach didn’t challenge. Otherwise, I think Steratore’s crew did a great job; perhaps it helped that his entire regular season crew was working the game together.
Tom B.
Home field advantage should play no factor in the officiating. Steratores crew was outstanding and fair to both teams. If you wanted the Pats to get special treatment, go watch the tape of the week 4 contest in which the Pats got all the calls their way including those phantom roughing the passer calls. Or go watch the AFC title game, when New England got away with mugging the Colts receivers.
Thank you Kelly G, Go Pats, Coates_87, Alan and Eric B for weighing in after my rant.
Let me set the record straight — I am not and did not blame the Refs for the Patriots’ loss last weekend. The Ravens outplayed the Pat’s and deserved to win. Consider one of my quotes, “Now, I’m not saying it would have made a difference in the outcome”. That should have made that point.
That said, I still don’t have answers as to:
1.) How does a team run 52 running plays on the road and not get flagged for 1 holding call (especially when it did occur at times)?
2.) How does Ben Watson get outright mugged later in the game as the center piece of the play and no flag is thrown?
My points were not to challenge who was the better team, or to offer up sour grapes. But instead, to point out that Steratore and his crew are not as infallible as some on this board seem to think…..
I’m rooting for the Ravens the rest of the way. Hopefully, they get the same kind of treatment from the officials as they did this past Sunday. And, as importantly, hopefully Indy doesn’t benefit from a boatload of home town calls (which they’ve almost come to expect)….
Tom B: The same reason why they didn’t call the holds on the Patriots O Line for holding the Ravens defenders. The officials wanted to let the players decide the game on the field.
Tom B, The Patriots got a huge break when they were rewarded the ball on the muffed punt when the Pats player never possessed it. The blown call led to the Pats first touchdown. Baltimore was the better team and deserved the win. New England played very poorly.
Most of the Ravens penalties this year have been of the stupid variety, holding away from the play, unnecessary roughness, unsportsmanlike conduct; etc. The Umpire was consistent in letting the teams play, the Patriots had several instances where holding could have been called. IF THEY FOLLOWED THE RULES TO THE LETTER, there would be holding called on every single play.
Steratore and Boger are excellent refs as are MacCauley, Triplette, Corrente and Mike Carey. However, none of them are as good as Jerry Markbreit, Red Cashion, or Jim Tunney were.
The Patriots got away with several holds in the Wild Card game. Patriots fans have nothing to complain about. The Ravens outplayed them big time and deserved the win. It is ludicrous for Tom to blame the officials for the Patriots losing.
Adam and ncref — Agreed….
Lee Corso’s Twin — You’re Wrong!!!! I DID NOT AND DO NOT BLAME THE OFFICIALS FOR THE PATRIOTS LOSS…..In fact, these were my very words “Let me set the record straight — I am not and did not blame the Refs for the Patriots’ loss last weekend. The Ravens outplayed the Pat’s and deserved to win.” I JUST DON”T KNOW HOW MORE PLAINLY I CAN SAY THAT.
At the same time, why can’t I seperate that and still challenge the officials on some things without people on this board divining judgement as to my motivations……WOW…..
THE PATRIOTS LOST AND DESERVED TO LOSE. THE RAVENS WON AND VERY MUCH DESERVED TO WIN!!!!!!! And, I’ll add that the Refs made favorable calls (and let things go) that were favorable towards the Patriot’s.
But, seperate and apart from that, my questions stand. As well, my opinion of the Steratore crew seems to differ from everyone else on this board. I understand that, but I’ll also retain my opinion…..
my predictions:
DAL@MIN Walt Anderson
NYJ@SD Al Riveron
ARZ@NO Terry McAualy
BLT@IND Jeff Triplette
As far as the refs are concerned, remember it’s not necessarily the entire crew. Three of Boger’s crew were assigned to work Wild Card Weekend as officials or alternates. So, if Boger is indeed working a game this weekend. I think he’s replacing Corrente, who looks like he’ll have a CC game.
McCauly getting left out?? wow…that could mean anything could happen…like Carey or Corrente get hosed in favor of a Morreli or Triplette or Riveron…interesting how they do it
if Riveron get a CC game it might be time to give up on the NFL. The worst refereed game I saw this year was the week 5 Monday night game between the Jets and Dolphins. There were phanton PI calls all over the place.
My picks are; Ron Winters, Carl Cheffers, Walt Anderson & Jerome Boger.
Updated, thanks Vet. Please keep the info coming, he was 100% correct last week so let’s not reveal the source and risk jeopardizing it.
See below for Championship assignments.
To Tom B:
I agree the Ben Watson interference over the middle in the red zone, should have been called. But lets just say that was the make up call for the muffed punt call which you scored 7 points on a 16 yard drive.
I certainly hope, you as a Pats fan, were unbiased and complaining for the lack of defensive pass interference calls from the muggings the Pats DBs gave the Colts WRs in the playoffs earlier in the decade. Otherwise that would make you a hypocrite.
BTW you complain lack of holding calls on the Ravens O-Line? Come on. Where was the flag on Suggs strip of Brady? Classic offensive holding.
Rav: If you think the Watson play should have been called. Then what about the Pats OL holding Ngata several times without a holding call? It goes both ways.
Rav, you’ve given me the best explanation yet on that Watson play/non-call. And yes, the Patriot’s did benefit from a bad call on that muffed punt earlier in the game. So, making up for that bad call was in order. Hence, the non-call on the Watson play is more understandable. Bottom line then, final score should have been 40-7 Ravens….
The rules for Defensive Pass Interference were tightened up (aka the Polian Rules) after that NE/Indy playoff game you refer to. It’s now called/enforced differently (more strictly).
In make up fashion you’d appreciate, Indy benefited in the AFC Championship game against NE several years ago. A key pass interference call (bad call, league admitted to later) was made in the 2nd half which assisted greatly in Indy’s comeback. In that same game, a bogus Offensive Pass Interference call on Troy Brown late in the first half was vital/instrumental in shifting the momentum/score of that game from what truly should have been going into the half. Indy went on to “win” the game and their SB that year…..
Great….Ron Winter. Saints are screwed. I just hope the saints are ahead enough so that winter and his crew don’t botch it in the final minutes of the game. Good grief, do the Saints always have to play against more than allowed number of players on the field, 11? I guess they will have to, yet again, defy the odds and win this one with one arm tied behind their back. WHO DAT?!?!?!?!
Do Boger, Winter, Cheffers, and Anderson all have their regular crews intact for their playoff game?
Also, does anyone know if officials get paid more per game for working playoff games, or is it the equivalent of a regular game check? Does it vary by the level of the game officiated (i.e. wild card vs. championship vs. Superbowl)?
Boger surprised and even Cheffers who had a good year. But, I would honestly not be surprised to see Morelli in there and Carey left out all together. The lead referee in the game is ranked on how he himself performed and I know Morelli himself had a good yr
Super Bowl ref will be either Anderson, Leavy or Hochuli since none of the others who worked last week or this are Super Bowl eligible. They need five years at current position and need to have worked at least one Conference Championship game. So, the likely Conferece Championship assignments this year would go to : McAulay, Mike Carey
Len –
Ron Winter and Scott Green are both eligible as well.
Neither has worked a Conference Championship game as referee.
Since when?
Bill Leavy never worked a CC game he got the call to work Super Bowl XL.
Stop making things up.
No true, genius. Look it up!
If the NFL shuts out Terry McAulay and rewards Winter and Anderson, that would signal a dangerous trend toward more activist refs. The Dallas/New Orleans game stood out to me as the best officiated game of the year because the players played and there weren’t a bunch of flags for ticky-tack nonsense that other refs would have called.
Walt Anderson is likely Super Bowl ref. Winter has not worked a Conference Championship game as referee so he is not eligible.
The ideal crew would be one that finds the right balance between controlling the game and letting the players play.
That said, that it is a mystery to me why McAulay is an alternate.
I agree, the fact that Green, Boger, Winter have all gotten assignments, while Triplette has been left out, and McAulay and Parry were both alternates shocked me.
Triplette could be assigned to the AFC or NFC championship game. Triplette/Morelli and Corrente are the most likely choices. Ed Hochuli is going to officiate the super bowl.
It could also be Mike Carey or Walt Coleman in the CC’s.
I dunno. I am like 99% sure Mike Carey gets CC…I cannot see he being left out: also going for him is that only 1 of his crew has gotten an assignment. 4 of Corrente’s 6 other crew are all working this weekend, which makes him less likely. I think it’ll be him or Morelli and Mike Carey. Triplette gets the Pro Bowl, and Walt Anderson the SB.
I don’t see Hochuli getting the SB for two reasons.
1. Generally, the SB goes to a Div weekend ref, but not always…
2. If SD makes it to the SB, which is a high chance of that happening, I definitely don’t see him getting it since last season there was an issue, ha.
I have a question for Vet or Russ. Are the conference championship pairings already set or do the results of the divisional round games and which matchups they set up impact which officials will be selected? thank you
no, they are announced on Monday
Russ, Has the super bowl lead referee been selected yet. A lot of folks on this board have already handed the assignment to Anderson. But what if he has a bad game tomorrow? Don’t playoff performance count towards the gradings that determine who calls the Super Bowl? I still think Ron Winter has a shot to govern the super bowl.
no, it is not announced until after the conference championships. If it is not Anderson (which I think it will be), look for it to be Bill Leavy who had a great year or Ed Hochuli. I do not see it being Ron Winter as he has sucked today and I think Boger, Cheffers, and Seratore are too young.
Russ – you are right that Boger Cheffers and Steratore are all to young.
and Lee Corso’s twin – Winter is horrible
Russ, How did Winter “suck” today?
He didn’t really suck Lee. I was overreacted a little at his awful RTP call. Other than that he was fine, I defineately would not be surprised to sim him in the super bowl.
This was on DMN – interesting about Anderson…
Yellow flags: Anderson gets Cowboys-Vikings game
Rick Gosselin/Columnist
The Cowboys haven’t even boarded the plane yet for their NFC semifinal game with the Minnesota Vikings this weekend but already have caught a huge break. A league source said the NFL has assigned the officiating crew of Walt Anderson to work the game between the Cowboys and Vikings.
The Anderson crew was the only one of the league’s 17 officiating crews to assess 200 penalties this season. It also led the league with its 1,794 penalty yards, 172 more than the No. 2 crew. That should alarm the Cowboys, one of the league’s most penalized teams this season.
But it’s even more alarming to the Vikings. Anderson’s crew was harder on home teams than any officiating crew this season. It assessed 113 penalties for a staggering 1,029 yards on home teams.
As a means of comparison, the Cowboys drew the Ed Hochuli crew for its opening-round playoff game last weekend. Working the same number of games (15) during the regular season, the Hochuli crew called 22 fewer penalties for 317 fewer yards against home teams than Anderson.
Anderson’s crew assessed 10 or more penalties against six teams this season. Five of them were home teams. He also assessed 100 or more yards in penalties against five teams. Four of them were home teams.
Anderson worked one game apiece involving the Cowboys and Vikings this the season. In the Minnesota-Detroit game at Minneapolis, Anderson assessed 13 penalties for 91 yards against the Vikings. His crew penalized Detroit only four times for 40 yards. In the Cowboys-Broncos game at Denver, Anderson penalized the Broncos 10 times for 81 yards. He penalized the Cowboys seven times for 70 yards.
In the Baltimore-Green Bay game in December, Anderson walked off an NFL season-high 310 yards in penalties. He was hard on the road Ravens, assessing 12 penalties for 135 yards. But he was even harder on the home Packers, assessing 11 penalties for 175 yards.
I wonder if Al Riveron will get the pro bowl with it being in miami and Riveron who now resides in Miami
It was McAulay
Why is a guy from Texas doing the Dallas game? Seems like the NFL would do better to alleviate even the hint of bias.
Chris I agree and Walt lives just 40 minutes from the Dallas metro area to.
Walt is from Sugarland Texas, isn’t he? that is near Houston.
Yeah, Sugarland is on the south side of Houston. And in general, Houstonites hate the Cowboys. I really don’t think there’s any more chance of bias based on that then if the guy were from anywhere else.
Does anyone know if Mike Carey will be referree-ing during the playoffs?
I like him as my favorite referee. however it seams like this season he did not get many prime time games or crucial 4pm games.
is there a reason for this.
he is great!
Can anybody tell me what has become of “OLD HOOK NOSE” himself Phil Luckett ? That guy had to be the shadiest referee of all time in the NFL.
he retired 2 years ago Warren.
I knew that much but does he still work for the league in any capacity? Thanks Russ.
Will you post the full crews for these? It looks like they are mixing up crew members from the regular season.
Saturday’s Crews:
Cardinals@Saints
Referee- Ron Winter
Umpire- Bill Schuster (Winter)
HL- John Schleyer (Boger)
LJ- Tom Stephan (Winter)
SJ- Michael Banks (McAulay)
BJ- Richard Reels (Winter)
FJ- Jim Howey (Winter)
ALT HL- Ed Camp (Riveron)
ALT LJ- Mark Steinkerchner (McAulay)
Ravens @ Colts
Referee- Carl Cheffers
Umpire- Undrey Wash (Cheffers)
HL- Kent Payne (Cheffers)
LJ- Chuck Stewart (Cheffers)
SJ- Rick Patterson (Coleman)
BJ- Dino Pagnelli (Cheffers)
FJ- Steve Zimmer (Riveron)
ALT Umpire- Bruce Stritesky (Triplette)
ALT SJ- Kieth Washington (Parry)
Sunday’s Crews:
Cowboys @ Vikings
Referee- Walt Anderson
Umpire- Scott Dawson (Anderson)
HL- Steve Stelljes (Triplette)
LJ- Carl Johnson (D. Carey)
SJ- James Coleman (Anderson)
BJ- Billy Smith (Anderson)
FJ- Scott Edwards (Parry)
ALT LJ- Jeff Bergman (Coleman)
ALT BJ- Steve Freeman (Triplete)
Jets @ Chargers
Referee- Jerome Boger
Umpire- Garth DeFelice (D. Carey)
HL- John McGrath (Corrente)
LJ- John Hussey (Corrente)
SJ- Allen Baynes (Corrente)
BJ- Greg Wilson (Corrente)
FJ- Terry Brown (McAulay)
ALT Referee- Terry McAulay
ALT FJ- Rob Vernatchi (Morelli)
Boger has NO ONE from his regular season crew with him for the Jets-Chargers game–that’s pretty surprising. I wonder why that is?
his crew sucks?
hahaha. one of his crew is reffing this weekend though…with Winter I believe.
Russ, thanks again for your accurate information. I’ll be waiting for the Championship games’ Crews. If possible, let me know who was in the Replay of the four Divisional Games. Thanks in
advance.
Saturday’s Replay Officials:
Cardinals@Saints- Earnie Frantz (McAulay)
Ravens@Colts- Larry Nemmers (Cheffers)
Cowboys@Vikings- Dale Hamer (Anderson)
Jets@Chargers- Mark Burns (Boger)
Once again good information. Thanks Russ
is Walt Coleman ref for the Pro Bowl this year in Miami?
I am rooting for Ron Winter to do well but it looks I am losing my wish. Of course, Ron is involved in a TERRIBLE RTP CALL. In no way is that roughing the passer. I think the QB needs to at leat hit the ground for the foul to be called. also, someone should have been ejected for throwing a punch. Winter clearly had no clue who was actually fighting.
Just as he did at Ne and Pitt. He protects some QB’s and lets others get bashed. he is inconsistent in applying the rules and I still can’t believe the NFL rated him high enough for a psot season assignment.
Carl Cheffers and crew were excellent tonight. I don’t think he is far off from a super bowl.
We agree on virtually everything. i was just about to post the same thing. He’ll be eligible for the 2014 SB i believe, provided there is not a shut out season in 2011
are you guy’s kidding me. Cheffers is the worse referee.
Far from it. Worst is Green, then Winter.
Are you an Oakland fan still holding a grudge??
If you are talking to me, then NO. I am a 49er fan. It’s common knowledge that Winter and Green suck. I don’t like or dislike a referee because a call they made effected my team (Winter reffed the 49er-Giant playoff game that cost the Giants the game, his fault. We probably should’ve lost)
at least three more seasons provoded he gets a conference championship assignment in the meantime. pretty certain he will. He’s a good rules guy.
Respect the Vet opinion. It appears he is spot on. The SB officials probably know who they are by now. Based on their scores and qualifications. And yes, I agree he should not reveal his source.
Bernie is from minne-soooooooooooooooooooota where they tal;k like that! Check out the classic movie “Fargo” for a primner on Minnesota-ese!
How did Carl Cheffers get a big playoff game last night. Never seen a crew clearly favor a team like last night. How did they not call passing interference on Indi when they blocked out Ray Rice. Safety never even looked at ball clearly face guarding. I usually never bash nfl referees. I usually am the one sticking up for them but I have never liked Carl Cheffers since his promotion.
I’ve seen four plays on which Ray Edwards was blatantly held and nothing called… it’s getting ridiculous!
Flozell Adams had illegal use of hands to the face on jared allen, 2nd play of 2nd Q I believe that wasn’t called, however the U was seen in the backround doing the symbol in Anderson’s direction, probably saying…we screwed up! haha
False start on Harvin?! Give me a BREAK! Ignore the defensive holding on the next play? This has been horrible! If this is the Super Bowl crew, I am very worried.
not the whole crew, just the ref, Anderson. (most likely that is)
someone please get rid of the dentist worse referee i have seen yet, better off with the good old winters crew damn.
Got, I am very issapointed in Anderson and his crew. I thought he would be super bowl worthy and shook off the dumb comments saying Anderson is from Dallas, he should not be calling this game. But all those comments were correct, Anderson is clearly favoring the Cowboys but to no avail. My new super bowl pick is Bill Leavy. He has heavily improved since his last Super Bowl. He just goes around quietly becoming one of the top 5 refs in the league. There is never any controversy and calls most penalties correctly. I am rooting for Leavy to get the nod.
Leavy is one of the best… I’d be okay with him. I still would love to see Steratore, but I don’t think he’s been a referee long enough.
Now that all 8 games are over with for WC and DIV, and one of the referees we’ve seen will referee the SB:
Green – bysmal GB-AZ should eliminate him, and I believe he has not reffed a CC game
Steratore – no CC game, too new
Winter – bysmal AZ-NO game, but is eligible
Boger – no CC game, too new
Cheffers – too new, no CC
Hochuli – eligible
Anderson – eligible, but DAL-MINN game was suspect
Leavy – eligible, best performance of all 8 refs.
Leavy had the best performance of eligible refs, but Boger did have the best performance
Whoever said you have to work a CC before a Super bowl that is just not true. Leavy never worked a CC and he did a super bowl. You can also be reffing for less than 5 years before a super bowl. McAulay did the super bowl in his 4th year. Technically, Boger and Steratore are eligible for the super bowl.
My super bowl rankings:
1. Leavy
2. Winter (not as bad as people say, Very LIKELY he will get the super bowl)
3. Boger
4. Steratore
russ, agreed about winter….he does have some very bad moments though….I would not be surprised to see Winter in Miami for the SB. Boger did excellent today…controlled game well
In fact if you see the post on this thread I linked…
http://refereestats.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2011
The CC requirement was recently dropped.
Correction
it’s dropped if an official meets certain conditions.
Russ, Are the CC assignments announced yet?
Gang:
A few things:
- Yes, I loved Kukar, too. Remember the messy ending to an ’01 MNF game between BAL-TEN with the goal-line stand at the end? Kukar got it right!
- Anderson is one of the most experienced active refs who has never done an SB, at least not as a lead hat. He was the SJ at XXXV (BAL-NYG).
- Not sure of the eligibility rules myself, but I do like Steratore and Boger. Cheffers’ first postseason game was BAL-IND, and I thought he was a bit shaky.
- It would very appropriate for Riveron to do the Pro Bowl. He’s the only hometown guy there!
- The team I cover is now out of the postseason, but finding this site and taking in all your input was one of the highlights of my year. Thanks a bunch for the ride! See ya this fall!
Joe Platania,
PressBox Newspaper, Baltimore
pressboxonline.com
PREDICTIONS:
JETS AT INDI. Mike Carey
VIKINGS AT SAINTS Pete Morelli
PRO BOWL Al Riveron (Hometown guy)
SUPERBOWL Ron Winter finally gets his first ever superbowl if not him Ed Hoculi
I know I mispelled Hochuli
guesses
Jets-Colts- Triplette
Vikings-Saints- Corrente
Pro Bowl- M. Caray
Super Bowl- Steratore or possibly Hochuli
Guesses for CC, SB and PB
Jets at Colts – Mike Carey
Vikings at Saints – Tony Corrente
Super Bowl – Gene Steratore
Pro Bowl – Jeff Triplette
Guesses
Jets @ Colts: Pete Morelli
Vikings @ Saints: Mike Carey
Super Bowl: Bill Leavy
Pro Bowl: Al Riveron
Len -
I have two pieces of evidence where you are wrong AND I LOOKED IT UP.
Bill Leavy
-2004 Worked a Divisional Playoff
-2005 Worked a Wild Card Game, then Super Bowl XL
Mike Carey
-1997 Worked a Wild Card
-1998 Worked a Wild Card
-2000 Worked a Wild Card
-2001 Worked a Wild Card
-2002 Worked a Divisional Playoff
-2003 Worked a Divisional Playoff
-2004 Worked a Wild Card
-2005 Worked a Wild Card
-2006 Worked a Divisional Playoff
-2007 Worked a Divsional Playoff, THEN Super Bowl XLII
nowhere in your “proof” does it say that experience must be as a referee… Carey did NOT work a conference championship as a referee, but may have in another position.
Here’s how it works. Len is right in a sense. You have to have either worked a CC as a head referee or worked a CC at another position. Mike Carey worked the AFC championship in 1994 which made him eligible for the super bowl. Leavy worked as BJ in the 2000 super bowl. Winter and Steratore are eligible for the super bowl this year because Winter worked the 1997 AFC championship as a LJ and Steratore worked the 2005 AFC championship as FJ. However, Boger is ineligible because he has not worked a CC as a LJ or Referee.
Apparently, that’s where I misunderstood it. I was under the impression that one had to be a conference championship REFEREE to be eligible for the Super Bowl. I used Wikipedia as my information by the way. However, that still means Leavy still has not worked a CC at any position. Unless someone has info to the contrary.
Nonetheless, my mistake. I apologize Len.
And russ, I don’t think Steratore is eligible for the Super Bowl until next year. I think this is only his fourth year as a white hat.
No, he is eligible. It is only his 4th year as a white hat, but 7th year as an NFL official. McAualy worked a super bowl in his 4th year as a white hat, but it was his 6th year as an on field official.
Hochuli Super Bowl.
any word on the championship refs yet? thanks
The NFL tries to avoid this and have done this in the past. But it is not an official rule.
My predictions:
New York Jets at Indianapolis Colts – Pete Morelli
Minnesota Vikings at New Orleans Saints – Tony Corrente
Pro Bowl – Mike Carey
Oh he is. Thanks russ for that.
Then Steratore is my pick for this year’s Super Bowl.
Starting next year, can mike/mickey post who is eligible for post-season and Super Bowl.
Never claimed to be an expert. Just wanted to learn about the process. Learning something new this year.
Championship:
New Orleans
Morelli
Ellison
Hittner
Boston
Prioleau
Hill
Schmitz
Alt: Ferrell/Meyer
Corrente
Fowler
Mello
Arthur
Cavaletti
Lamberth
Helverson
Alt: M. Carey/Steed
WOW! Can’t believe that MCarey gets nothing (I don’t count ALT cuz you will rarely work)
This leaves Coleman, Riveron, DCarey and Triplette for Pro Bowl, although I am not sure if rookie status affects Don Carey at all? Anyone know?
Also there is an ALT SB referee, will that be a previously assigned referee or one of the above? If so, I’d say Triplette is the ALT for the SB and Coleman gets PB.
HA!!!!!!!!!!! I knew it. I said it many times that Carey would get nothing. He…let me say again…he did not have the best season
Pro Bowl
Triplette
C. Paganelli
Veteri
Phares
Steenson
Wyant
P. Paganelli
Alt: Mackie
Nobody should be surprised that Carey is not getting the call. He had a very average year took a lot of criticism for his work of Eagles-Broncos in week 16.
Vet, Thank you for info. As expected, Mike Carey did not get a playoff assignment. He had a tough year but I think he will come back and do better next fall. I am a little surprised Walt Coleman is not on the NFC game but maybe he will get the Super Bowl. Steratore and Coleman are probaly the favorites for the Super Bowl.
If Coleman was going to work the SB, he would have had either a wild card or divisional. And, as much as I like Steratore, I don’t think he’s been an R long enough to get it. I don’t have any info yet, but my bets for the SB are Anderson, Hochuli, or Leavy.
I really hope it is not Anderson–he did a horrible job in the Vikings-Cowboys game! Especially if Minnesota beats NO, I don’t see how the NFL could justify putting him in another Minnesota game when it seemed like his crew had it out for them in the divisional game.
My guess is Leavy gets the assignment
Scott Green gets the call according to someone with inside info. And russ posted this on another thread here.
Apologies russ if I stepped on your toes.
Pete Morelli, I advise all to fly to Vegas and hammer the Saints. I quickly recall Morelli called the Vikes -9 at Panthers this season and the Vikes +8 vs Eagles 2005 divisional playoff game. I attended the Panther game, it was horrible. His crew called nothing on the Panthers. And as for that Philly game, Vikes 108 yds in penalties to 20. The bottom line, when the cash is on the Vikes (and if you check Sportsbook.com >80% is on the Vikes ML) combined with Peter Morelli, the outcome is inverse to the money side
Good job, Vet on keeping us posted..I personally believe that either Hochuli or Leavy get the Super Bowl..Mike Carey did a good job this year but not a GREAT job. AND, McCauley ref’d the Super Bowl last year which reduces his chances of a repeat. Watch for Steratore to get it soon, maybe in 2 years..
super bowl ref is Scott Green everyone!
Source? And if its true then this follows the pattern of this year’s post season. Putting lesser known names on bigger games and giving the big boys who do all the big games like McAuley, M Carey, Leavy, Steratore etc, a break.
Veri interesting.
The source cannot be revealed, but I am confident of its accuracy.
It will indeed be Scott Green as the referee of Super Bowl XLIV; it’s his third Super Bowl as an official and first as a referee. He also officiated Super Bowls XXXVI and XXXVIII as back judge.
Vet probably has the best info still. The SB crew now has their official assignments. At least as of today.
OK, that was random. I am not trying to compete with Vet. His info is probably better than mine. What’s your point though?
Sorry russ,
Was not a slight at your info. And yes, after reading, that was random. I had verification of one of the crew members yesterday as well so I was betting your info was accurate based on the timing of your comment.
don’t worry about it.
I can confirm that Scott Green will be the Super Bowl referee.
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