Week 11

THU, NOV 19
Miami at Carolina – Walt Anderson

SUN, NOV 22
Washington at Dallas – Alberto Riveron
Cleveland at Detroit – Terry McAulay
San Francisco at Green Bay – Scott Green
Pittsburgh at Kansas City – Carl Cheffers
Atlanta at NY Giants – Gene Steratore
New Orleans at Tampa Bay – Walt Coleman
Buffalo at Jacksonville – Mike Carey
Indianapolis at Baltimore – John Parry
Seattle at Minnesota – Ed Hochuli
Arizona at St. Louis – Bill Leavy
NY Jets at New England – Jeff Triplette
Cincinnati at Oakland – Don Carey
San Diego at Denver – Ron Winter
Philadelphia at Chicago – Tony Corrente

MON, NOV 23
Tennessee at Houston – Jerome Boger

{ 119 comments… read them below or add one }

KMG 365 November 17, 2009 at 3:14 am

Jerome Boger will be the referee for the Monday nighter between the Titans and Texans.

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mickey November 17, 2009 at 6:07 am

Updated, thanks KMG.

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9er fan November 17, 2009 at 10:21 am

KMG – You are always on top of things! haha…

I look every week and can never find things…maybe I look in the wrong places.

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capper2 November 17, 2009 at 11:10 am

This site is awesome.. Will use it before I make my picks this week. I guess I want to ask how many people believe certain refs impact games? And who is using it before wagering? I am about a 58% picker over the past 2 seasons and am new to the spread game. Just want to learn.

(Sorry i poseted this on last weeks board but i figure no one will be there anymore)

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deefan November 17, 2009 at 9:09 pm

will mn and farve play anybody this week ???? don.t touch farve 5,ooo fine what a back stabber

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mr. bamboozaul November 18, 2009 at 1:15 am

who will be the officials for the deadskins-cowboys game? i hope it not jeff triplett’s crew (smile).

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Alan S. November 18, 2009 at 1:50 am

Scott Green / Jerome Boger / Ed Hochucli / Mike Carey / Tony Corrente / Bill Leavy and Pete Morelli are ineligible to work the Skins / Cowboys game. This leaves ten Ref’s available:

Winter
Tripplette
Cheffers
Rivera
Coleman – uuuggghhh (he’s so sorry)
Anderson
McCauley
Steratore
Don Carey
Parry

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Jake November 18, 2009 at 1:46 pm

1st of all spell Hochuli’s name correct & No betting on Officials.

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Alan S. November 19, 2009 at 12:46 am

Jake. .are you some sort of #85 jock? You knew who I was talking about. Stop lobbying for “Big Ed” He’s doin just fine without you kissing up.

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J November 19, 2009 at 11:34 am

Alan,

Wake UP! As an Official I respect the people when they post & get the names correct…. meaning spelling. It does not hurt if you are not sure of the SPELLING is to open another window & just type an NFL Officials name. It brings up the name & the correct spelling. So in the future please type their names correctly.

Thank you

Alan S. November 20, 2009 at 12:15 pm

J,

I guess you’ve never misspelled anything in your life. Did yout take the time to look it (spelling) up or was it an honest mistake, as in this case. In addition, please do not discredit yourself and your integrity by not telling the truth.

Sam November 18, 2009 at 9:20 am

You have to wait 5 weeks before a crew can work the same team so Triplette and Coleman are not going to be in Dallas.

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9er fan November 18, 2009 at 9:28 am

Alan

it’s Riveron. not Rivera.
it’s also McAulay, Triplette and Hochuli.

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Alan S. November 19, 2009 at 12:47 am

Okay people. . .stop cryin about the spelling. . .you know #57. . how’s that. is the number right?

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Alan S. November 19, 2009 at 12:49 am

Man O Man. . .you people worship these guys. . .Holy!! All of you would be the main ones blowing up the site if these same officials blow a call for your team or whoever you root for. Be Honest. . .

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J November 19, 2009 at 11:35 am

Yes we do… Do you have a problem with it Alan? Please spell the Officials names correctly.

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Sam November 18, 2009 at 10:21 am

Washington @ Dallas Alberto Riveron is working the game.

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mike November 18, 2009 at 11:40 am

Updated, Thanks Sam.

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John November 18, 2009 at 12:41 pm

Ron Winter in Denver.

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mickey November 18, 2009 at 1:08 pm

John — Added Ron, thanks.

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Patrick Bell November 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm

Did you know that Ref Cheffers gave the Cleveland Browns a 4th timeout in the 2nd half and no one caught it.

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John November 18, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Patrick –

Then again, the Browns could be given 17 timeouts in the 1st half and still would not have scored.

Just sayin’.

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Patrick Bell November 18, 2009 at 1:41 pm

I for got to leave the website to check it out. It is http://www.footballzebras.com .

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Jake November 18, 2009 at 1:47 pm

Sometimes there is not 5 weeks before a crew works a team.

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Russ November 18, 2009 at 4:59 pm

Jake, that has never been the case.

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Jake November 18, 2009 at 6:44 pm

Russ,

I have to go back to my records, but think there was a crew in 2007 or 2008 where there was only a 4 week gap and a crew worked the same team.

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Jan November 20, 2009 at 10:29 am

Jake, how late in the NFL season did crew in question in 2007 or 2008 work a four week gap between games? If it was the end of the season and the official worked the same game during the play-offs, that is okay. I have seen referee crews work a certain team at the end of the season and go ahead and officiate that same team in the play-offs. I have also seen an official work a team during the play-off and workthe same team druring the Super Bowl.

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dukefan November 18, 2009 at 5:40 pm

watch out in denver we got mr. winters working out there. he is about as bad as the ed hochuli. hopefully we dont get another hochuli call like last year in denver .

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John G November 18, 2009 at 5:44 pm

That was atrocious last year. I was happy to see that Hochuli did make a public statement saying that he did screw up.
The other thing to remember is that it is not all on the Referee, there are 6 other officials out there and each one can make mistakes. You hope they don’t but we can’t all be perfect.

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Tyler November 18, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Where is ED Hochuli referee this week

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J November 18, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Ed is working all the teams..

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John November 19, 2009 at 1:52 pm

According to a chart I did figuring the assignments, Ed will get one of…

Browns/Lions
Seahawks/Vikings
Bengals/Raiders

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Alan S. November 20, 2009 at 9:52 am

Ed worked in Oak week 3. . . and Det week 5. . .

Don’t think he’ll get either of these games.

Looks like he’ll be in the twin cities.

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Tyler November 18, 2009 at 6:51 pm

Which game is his crew doing this week

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Sam November 18, 2009 at 7:41 pm

Tyler all I can tell you is that Hochuli IS working a game this week.

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Ryan November 18, 2009 at 7:45 pm

This is not Ed Hochuli’s second bye week, I live in the city he is working and was told he was the referee by a trusted friend, I will post this information on Friday(friend asked me to wait until then).

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Barry November 18, 2009 at 8:01 pm

Thank you Mr Pereira for the clarification on the Pats 4th and 2 play you don’t know anything except Tom Stabile made the right call on the bobble and the ball should have been marked where Faulk got control of the ball which was over the 30 yard line Glad your retiring with explanations like that

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steven November 19, 2009 at 12:21 am

I thought I heard somewhere that Don Carey was going to officiate the Giants/Falcons game this week. I could be wrong please someone verify!

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mickey November 19, 2009 at 10:47 am

I’ve added him to the list with a question mark. We’ll know for sure pretty soon.

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Kyle November 19, 2009 at 6:16 pm

Don Carey not working that game.

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steven November 21, 2009 at 4:25 pm

do you know who is?

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9er fan November 21, 2009 at 5:31 pm

steratore, m carey or morelli… one of those 3…

Bob November 19, 2009 at 9:54 am

Ed hasn’t done a Carolina game yet this year. Don’t know who will be here tonight, but probably not him. Any news?

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:22 pm

I believe it is Walt Anderson tonight

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Hochuli is either off this week or will be in Oakland or Minnesota. Those are the only 2 games he can work this weekend. Or he could be in Carolina tonight which he cant because I heard Anderson is there today

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Jan November 22, 2009 at 9:49 pm

Also Ed has not officated at a Dallas Cowboys Game during the regular season.
Jan

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G November 19, 2009 at 10:31 am

Cheffers in KC week 11

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mickey November 19, 2009 at 10:48 am

Added, thanks!

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Alan S. November 19, 2009 at 11:01 am

#85 will be in either Jac / Minn or STL for Week 11

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J November 19, 2009 at 11:38 am

Where did you get this info?

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Alan S. November 19, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Process of elimination after going through the past 11 weeks.

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John November 19, 2009 at 12:28 pm

It won’t be St. Louis because he officiated a Cardinal game 2 weeks ago.

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:31 pm

Alan Hochuli can’t be in Jax this weekend he did there game at the Jets last weekend.

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ChuckNorrisJockStrap November 19, 2009 at 11:45 am

Wyh is evrybdy so wrked up aboot spellling on thes messege bored? You awl no who tha poasters meen, so wha’s the big deele? Chillax spaz monkies.

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J November 19, 2009 at 12:08 pm

Chuck,

It is a big deal in spelling. If you cannot spell the Officials names than relay it to Mickey & he will post it for you.

Thank you

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ChuckNorrisJockStrap November 19, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Forgive me J, but I found this amusing. I think you meant to say “then relay it to Mickey & he will post it for you.” At least I hope that’s what you meant. Not that I care, but people complaining about stupid stuff should be a little more vigilant about their own posts IMO.

That is all. Good day.

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ChuckNorrisJockStrap November 19, 2009 at 12:23 pm

By the way. I really enjoy this site and will not post anymore. I just find complaints about stuff that don’t even matter annoying. Like I said, we all know who they meant. What is the point of slamming them for accidentally messing a name up? It’s just e-bullying.

Anyway, great work on the site. Keep it up.

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Mr. Walt Anderson will be doing the Miami/Carolina game tonight

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mickey November 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Updated, thanks.

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:32 pm

ya 95% sure thats the case. My buddy knows Butch Hannah and heard thats where he was going to be and makes sense as Walt Anderson crew hasn’t done a Miami or Carolina game all year and he was off 4 weeks ago

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Paul November 19, 2009 at 12:39 pm

There is another site dedicated to Officials that is alot better than this site. I think I will stick around over there.

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm

whats the site

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm

John Parry most likely will be doing the colts/ravens game in baltimore

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Ryan November 19, 2009 at 1:51 pm

Eric Berger Butch Hannah is Scott Green’s Umpire this year,Scott Dawson is Walt Anderson’s umpire.

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Kyle November 19, 2009 at 2:11 pm

Ryan,

I guess the people that post on here cannot even get the crews correct. Good going in your correction.

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russ November 19, 2009 at 2:35 pm

Yeah, but I still think he is right about Anderson, Green is ineligible to do that game since he did Panthers@Saints in week 9.

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 8:25 pm

told u walt anderson was the ref tonight

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 3:27 pm

hey ryan get your facts straight:

Referee: 66 – Walt Anderson
Umpire: 40 – Butch Hannah
Head Linesman: 110 – Phil McKinnely
Line Judge: 18 – Byron Boston
Field Judge: 43 – Terry Brown
Side Judge: 15 – Rick Patterson
Back Judge: 2 – Billy Smith

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eric berger November 19, 2009 at 3:29 pm

o my bad i thought you were talking about last year. I know Butch is with Scott Green this year. Butch is good friends still with Walt Anderson and thought that Walt was in Charlotte tonight.

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Kyle November 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm

NOPE Eric #40 Butch Hannah is on Scott Green’s Crew 2009. Get your FACTS straight ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Kyle November 19, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Scott Green’s Crew for 2009 is:

R-19 Scott Green
U-40 Butch Hannah
HL-24 Tom Stabile
LJ-100 Tom Symonette
FJ-109 Dyle Prioleau
SJ-128 Larry Rose
BJ-93 Scott Helverson
RA Dick Creed
VO Bill Tracy

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Alan S. November 20, 2009 at 9:55 am

What is RA and VO???

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Kyle November 20, 2009 at 10:41 am

If you all do not know what an RA or RO is in the NFL than you all do not need to comment on Officials. Or make negative comments about them.

Jan November 22, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Alan a RO is a replay official
A VO is a Video official.
I obtained this information from Becky at NFL.85.com in a PM
Jan

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bud November 19, 2009 at 5:38 pm

Shame on the NFL for assigning Ron Winter a game that’ll determine 1st place in the AFC West. He’s the worst the league has to offer, and that’s really saying something.

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Chris November 19, 2009 at 7:43 pm

Tony Corrente has the Bears Eagles Sunday Night

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mike November 19, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Updated, thanks Chris.

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RP November 20, 2009 at 10:17 am

Bud,
What makes you say Ron Winter is the worst in the league? Please give us some details to back up your statement.

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Zach November 20, 2009 at 12:24 pm

I used to post regularly on this site, but I was able to find another site where the posters actually discuss officiating and don’t bash certain referees. Farewell football-refs.com!

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Kyle November 20, 2009 at 1:31 pm

Zach,

Just make sure when you are on the other site you behave there. Show respect to the posters on that site. Do not bash & make sure you spell the Officials names correctly.

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eric berger November 20, 2009 at 12:58 pm

guy’s i bet the nfl and know most of the ref crews reputations but how do you base your bets on who the ref/crews are? do you do it for over unders?

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eric berger November 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm

according to my sources mr. john parry will be doing the indi/balt. game

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mickey November 20, 2009 at 2:37 pm

Updated, thanks Eric

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Sam November 20, 2009 at 2:34 pm

Hochuli is in Minnesota.

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mickey November 20, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Updated, thanks Sam.

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B.J November 20, 2009 at 9:19 pm

Eric, I bet on patterns look below OVER, Under and Line bets, Over Bets: Gene, Mike, John Parry.
Under : Bill leavy
Underdogs: Hochuli, Scott, Alberto
Favorites : Gene, John Parry
Ex Over, under, Winner means Fav won, Loser means Underdog won
Gene Steratore
1 Baltimore 38, Kansas City 24 O Winner
2 Arizona 31, Jacksonville 17 O Loser
3 Cincinnati 23, Pittsburgh 20 O Loser
4 Minnesota 30, Green Bay 23 O Winner
6 New England 59, Tennessee 0 O Winner
7 NY Jets 38, Oakland 0 O Winner
8 Houston 31, Buffalo 10 U Winner

Mike Carey
1 New Orleans 45, Detroit 27 O
2 NY Giants 33, Dallas 31 O
3 NY Jets 24, Tennessee 17 O
4 Indianapolis 34, Seattle 17 O
6 Minnesota 33, Baltimore 31 O
7 Houston 24, San Francisco 21 O
8 Carolina 34, Arizona 21 O

Last week I won 10 out of 14 games

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eric berger November 21, 2009 at 8:54 am

thanks guy’s these are great stats

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Kyle November 21, 2009 at 10:34 am

I am sorry but noone of that betting with officials makes sense. What a waste. Just bet on the team you are better off.

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hawnking808 November 20, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Yup I do the same B.J. knowing the ref. tendencies

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B.J November 20, 2009 at 11:04 pm

hawnking808, here what I have so far. Let me know if you have the same . I also track teaser -6, +6 and -13, +13, very high % winnings.

Under: Dall vs Wash
Over and take Hou : Hou vs Tenn
Over and Indy: Indy vs Balt
Take Sea: Min vs Seat
Over: SF vS GB

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B.J November 20, 2009 at 11:10 pm

But what I want to know from everyone. How do you track the refs doing the games? ESPN, Internet, paper word of mouth I want to help. What is the most common.

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Jan November 22, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Bj check out Fox Sports on MSN- NFL Scores. Or go to MSN’s Homepage click on any game that is over and it will direct you to the games that week. Furthermore, you can click onNFL week 11 and it can take you to the the NFL Scoreboard and to the prior weeks.
Jan

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hawnking808 November 20, 2009 at 11:49 pm

BJ bruddah funny I got the same plays with this crews on each game

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hawnking808 November 20, 2009 at 11:50 pm

just like that thurs. game nailed Miami and the under

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hawnking808 November 20, 2009 at 11:51 pm

I got the under in the seattle/minny game

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B.J November 21, 2009 at 12:12 am

Here is Ed stats: Ed not a sure thing for under. Good luck

Games Over Under Line winner
1 NY Jets 24, Houston 7 U Loser
2 Cincinnati 31, Green Bay 24 O Loser
3 Denver 23, Oakland 3 U Loser
4 Washington 16, Tampa Bay 13 U Loser
5 Pittsburgh 28, Detroit 20 O Winner
6 New Orleans 48, NY Giants 27 O Winner
8 Indianapolis 18, San Francisco 14 U Loser
9 Arizona 41, Chicago 21 O Loser
10 Jacksonville 24, NY Jets 22 O Loser

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bud November 21, 2009 at 7:34 am

RP,

Did you see the way Winter let Tom Brady punk him? He barely got touched and turned back to Winter and started his usual drama. Finally, after a couple seconds, Winter nodded his head in agreement and threw a flag. Brady was the beneficiary of several questionable calls that day. Flacco was hit twice with more vigor that any of the Brady hits. No call. Then, after this Pats game with the Ravens, Winter is seen walking off the field laughing and joking with Brady.

Fast forward a couple weeks. Minnesota, the least penalized team in the league, gets flagged 11 times for 78 yards. This includes a bogus tripping call that nullified a touchdown. Two plays later, Farve is intercepted for a pick 6. We would get into all the holding on that run back. Ditto for the other long run back for the Steelers that day. Winter and his crew only threw 3 flags for 15 yards against the Steelers that day.

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deefan November 21, 2009 at 12:35 pm

this is so right they really tried to help defeat steelers Mn plays nobody so far but the steelers and green bay G,B had near 100 yards penalties near as much no calls {holding} on mn protect farve at all cost a season ticket holder The Green Bay Packers

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9er fan November 21, 2009 at 12:54 pm

for Buff/Jax, it’ll be one of the Carey brothers. Not sure which one though…

and for cincy/oak, its either Don Carey or Triplette

and finally, steratore should in either Detriot, or the Meadowlands

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