SUN, DEC 29
Carolina at Atlanta – John Parry
Detroit at Minnesota – Tony Corrente
Green Bay at Chicago – Clete Blakeman
Baltimore at Cincinnati – Scott Green
Philadelphia at Dallas – Gene Steratore
Houston at Tennessee – Terry McAulay
Jacksonville at Indianapolis – Pete Morelli
Cleveland at Pittsburgh – Mike Carey
NY Jets at Miami – Jerome Boger
Buffalo at New England – Ed Hochuli
Tampa Bay at New Orleans – Carl Cheffers
Washington at NY Giants – Bill Vinovich
San Francisco at Arizona – Walt Anderson
Kansas City at San Diego – Bill Leavy
St. Louis at Seattle – Jeff Triplette
Denver at Oakland – Ron Winter
Week 17
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BUF@NE Bil Leavy or Terry McAulay Or John Parry Or Ron Winter Or Bill Vinovich Or Jerome Boger Or Scott Green
How about Cal Lepore while we are at it?
Michael, Cal Lepore hasn’t reffed in several years. You maybe shouldn’t post on this board if you don’t know something as basic as that.
Top Gun, I was being sarcastic in reference to the fact that Lorenzo posted just about every eligible Referee for the BUF@NE game in the hopes of finally getting one right this year. If you do not have a sense of humor maybe you shouldn’t post on this board
Red Cashion CAR @ ATL
Or Carl Cheffers or Clete Blakeman 0r Ed Hochuli or Gene Steratore or Jeff Triplette or Mike Carey or Pete Morelli or Tony Corrente. But not Walt Anderson. He’s doing SF/AZ.
You’re a douche Lorenzo. Get lost.
Michael and Mark are now banned from the board for theie bullying of Lorenzo.
You’re right, Top Gun. I am an ass and so is Mark. Please forgive us.
Until Mickey (the administrator) contacts me otherwise I will continue posting with the information I get
Yeah I will do the same. Sorry Top Gun…oops, I mean Lorenzo. TopGun, on the other hand, is legit. And until Mickey bans me (which he won’t, cuz I’m not a troll), I will continue to post on this site.
And I would just like to add that I was right, because Nita says Hochuli will be in NE this week. Further proof that Lorenzo is a stupid troll. #troll #getlostlorenzo
ed hochuli he watching holding he official get pats and bills games
Cheffers has TB @ NO.
Anderson is working San Fran vs Arizona this week.
Depending on how the rest of the season goes that is one of the games that I could see being flexed to SNF (the other possibilities being PHI@DAL or BAL@CIN)
Yeah I agree. But Anderson also has the SNF game for Week 14. I don’t know if that matters with the scheduling, etc.
CAR/NO was flexed in so it is not treated like a SNF game for purposes of scheduling. Under the new system any game in Week 17 is eligible to be flexed so not something they can really plan for far in advance. Looking at the schedule even when the assignments were first made for this season there were certain games like JAX/IND and CLE/PIT that were not realistically going to be flexed so the league may try to make sure that someone who had not been scheduled for SNF before flexing took place are not assigned those games
don’t green bay or Chicago game be flexed next week
It is definitely possible buy I think some of that will depend on the results this week. If Green Bay loses to Pittsburgh I doubt you see it flexed. If Dallas wins and Philly loses the winner of that match goes to the playoffs and the loser goes home plus it is Dallas/Philly so you know NBC is going to like that even though the NFC East has gotten the Week 17 flex pretty often
Actually once Dallas won it didn’t matter what Philly did since the Cowboys won their first meeting, but of course the Eagles blew out Chicago.
Yes, Philly beating the bears did matter. If Philly lost to the bears and beats dallas, they would’ve been the 4 seed. Since they beat the bears, if they beat dallas, they will be the 3 seed.
Well that’s true-that can be important if the top 2 seeds lose in the divisional playoffs, like 7 years ago when the Chargers and Ravens both lost and so the Colts got to host the Patriots in the AFC Title Game.
BUF@NE John Parry Or Mike Carey
Mike Carey does NOT have New England this week.
Ed Hochuli is eligible for BUF @ NE (he did CIN @ BUF back in week 6).
He got confirmed for that game
BUF@NE will be none of what Lorenzo says. He is obsessed with NE. We have taken him to a shrink and everything but nothing can stop this obsession. LORENZO – GO MAKE ME PIE. #sillyson
Howard Roe is in Dallas.
Carolina at Atlanta – HANTAK
Detroit at Minnesota – BLUM
Green Bay at Chicago – GRIER
Baltimore at Cincinnati – MARKBREIT
Philadelphia at Dallas – KUKAR
Houston at Tennessee – AUSTIN
Jacksonville at Indianapolis – MCELWEE
Cleveland at Pittsburgh – CAROLLO
NY Jets at Miami – LANE
Buffalo at New England – NEMMERS
Tampa Bay at New Orleans – HAMER
Washington at NY Giants – LUCKETT
San Francisco at Arizona – MCCARTER
Kansas City at San Diego – WHITE
St. Louis at Seattle – ROE
Denver at Oakland – RIVERON
Actually, Markbreit HAS been in Baltimore this year… working with the observers, sad to say. Johnny Grier also makes frequent stops here…
Gosh… and I thought Norm Schachter was doing the Green Bay -Chicago game! Darn….
Wouldn’t you know, based on Nita’s comments the referee in Foxboro is none of the names mentioned by Lorenzo Antonio and is, in fact, Ed Hochuli
pretty crazy isnt it? he throws about 8 names out there and none are right.
Yep, I just made fun of him for it. Idiot…
As of this post, JAX @ IND and NYJ @ MIA each have the fewest eligible referees (4):
JAX @ IND: Carey*, Green, Morelli & Steratore.
NYJ @ MIA: Boger, Coleman, Triplette* & Vinovich.
*Eligible under a five-week rule.
David –
KC @ SD also has 4 eligible crews – Boger, Carey, Steratore & Triplette
Also, with only 4
BAL @ CIN – Boger, Corrente, Green & Vinovich
However, HOU @ TEN only has 3 – Blakeman, McAulay & Steratore
You forgot that Leavy is also eligible for BAL @ CIN, HOU @ TEN and KC @ SD. I doubt that Carey would work KC @ SD, since he’s from San Diego. Certain referees prefer not to officiate games involving teams from their hometown, including Carey-Chargers, Anderson-Texans and I believe Boger-Falcons.
You are right about Leavy being eligible, except I had him on bye since they are the only crew that has not had a 2nd bye week which is why I did not include that crew.
Walt Coleman’s crew also has had only 1 bye week and I have it from a trusted source that Coleman’s crew will have its 2nd bye week in Week 17
Jeff Tripplettes Umpire Butch Hannah was injured during the Jets-Browns game (he was subbing for Pete Morrelli’s ump who is out). More than likely they wouldn’t have scheduled him to work the Jets game 2 weeks in a row
Triplette will ref in Seattle
Triplette previously officiated SEA @ CAR (Week 1) and SF @ STL (Week 4).
Who is eligible for Chicago/Green Bay?
Maybe Walt Anderson, although he did those two teams at Lambeau (i.e. CHI @ GB) back in Week 9.
He has SF/AZ.
OK.
Tony Corrente is eligible for GB @ CHI (he did WSH @ GB back in Week 2, but no Chicago games).
I’m gonna guess the Coleman is OFF this week as prior years show a consistency of having crews be OFF the week after their MNF game.
……….Which would be funny because Ellison missed a week due to suspension but could pick up a week……???
Mike Carey is eligible for DET @ MIN (he did CHI @ DET back in Week 4, but no Minnesota games this season).
Washington at NYG: Not BL, GS, CC, JB, EH, RW, JT, WA, JP, WC, TC, PM, TM
Eligible: MC, SG, BV, CB
Happy Holiday’s everyone!
Michael and David –
Thanks for the info. Forgive me, sometimes there are things I overlook.
BUF@NE Ed Hochuli
Houhuli, it is…confirmed via my favourite NFL team’s flip card:
http://media.patriots.com/mediafiles/2013/17/2013_17_Flip%20Card_20131223_110642.pdf
Apologies for the misspelling, it’s Hochuli.
As if Lorenzo got one RIGHT???!!!!
ahh that would be because the idiot read it further up the board.
Lorenzo – why do you troll so badly. Grow up!
Who will work Bills@Patriots next Sunday????
Based on Nita’s comments, Hochuli is confirmed for BUF @ NE.
Not that we were expecting anything different, but dallas-philly has been flexed to snf.
BUF @ NE & TB @ NO have been flexed to 4:25 PM ET. BUF @ NE is on CBS while TB @ NO is on FOX.
If the Bears lose tonight, then the GB @ CHI game will be flexed to 4:25 PM ET on FOX.
The Bears lost, so GB @ CHI is flexed to 4:25 PM ET on FOX to determine who wins the NFC North.
Who is the full referee roster for week 17
Is Ron Winter available for GB@CHI?
Yes. He has not worked either team all season.
Why has Mike Carey’s Back Judge Kirk Dornan been out and when will Darrell Jenkins Pete Morelli’s Umpire return
Who is eligible NYJ @ MIA?
Triplette
NYJ @ MIA – Carl Cheffers, Bill Leavy, or Jerome Boger.
Hope Steratore and his crew get no playoff games. They were terrible in the NO-CAR game. They cost NO the game.
Gerardo is correct. GB CH flexed to 3:25 cst on Fox. Eagles/Cowboys flexed to SNF. Both winners will be division champs. Losers go home. NO wild card.
Steratore and crew eligible for:
PHIL/DAL
HOU/TEN
JAX/IND
CLE/PIT
KC/SD
STL/SEA (did game b/w these two in Week 8)
Steratore and crew confirmed for Philadelphia at Dallas
Boger and crew eligible for:
GB/CHI (did Bears in Week 12)
CAR/ATL
BALT/CIN
NYJ/MIA
SF/ARZ (likely Anderson)
KC/SD
DEN/OAK (did game b/w these two in Week 3)
Carey and crew eligible for:
CAR/ATL
DET/MIN
JAX/IND
CLE/PIT
BUF/NE
WASH/NYG
KC/SD
DEN/OAK
Updated with Nita’s confirmation of Hochuli in New England.
CAR/ATL
DET/MIN
JAX/IND
CLE/PIT
WASH/NYG
KC/SD
DEN/OAK
Winter and crew eligible for:
GB/CHI
PHIL/DAL
CLE/PITT
STL/SEA
DEN/OAK
SF/ARZ (likely Anderson)
The only thing that joke of a crew should be eligible for is retirement.
I don’t disagree; however, 2 of the 5 games “that joke of a crew” is eligible for have significant playoff implications.
Mike Carey has not done a Patriots game this year so I think Mike Careys Crew will be in New England
Yeah and Steratore hasn’t done a Cowboys game in two years. That doesn’t mean a thing. If you’ve read the above comments, it has already been confirmed that Hochuli is in New England.
The Ravens are still alive in the playoff hunt, so in order to serve then with the death knell, my sources within the Ravens organization tell me that Ron Winter has been assigned to their game again this week.
Lets put the icing on the cake and just have Triplette put us in our grave for this season !!!
I doubt Ron or Jeff are eligible for anymore Ravens game. At any rate, I am thinking Jerome Boger, Scott Green, Bill Vinovich, or hopefully Terry McAulay. Terry is a great ref.
Terry is a great ref and should get this years Super Bowl.
Totally agree
McAulay and crew eligible for:
HOU/TEN
STL/SEA
Triplette and crew eligible for:
CAR/ATL
DET/MIN
NYJ/MIA
TB/NO
SF/ARZ
KC/SD
STL/SEA
HOU/TEN (did game b/w these two in Week 2)
Hochuli is in New England at Buffalo at New England.
Morelli and crew eligible for:
CAR/ATL
DET/MIN
GB/CHI
PHIL/DAL
JAX/IND
TB/NO
STL/SEA
DEN/OAK
Morelli already did MIN/BAL in Week 14, so cross that game off the list.
Morelli worked Tennessee @ St. Louis in Week #9, so I believe he is ineligible for STL @ SEA
Just remembered. Morelli worked Oakland @ NY Giants Week #10 and Kansas City @ Jacksonville Week #1, so cross DEN @ OAK and JAX @ IND off the list
Just because he worked a team previously does not make him ineligible. A crew cannot work a team more than twice during the regular season and if a crew works a team twice it has to be no more frequent than the opposite ends of a 6 week windows. For Week 17 that means officials are only disqualified from teams they have officiated twice during the regular season or from teams they officiated in Weeks 13-16
@ Michael
Sorry. Just not familiar with eligibility rules for NFL refs, but hope to be better prepared to play the guessing game every week in 2014.
Leavy and crew eligible for:
BALT/CIN
HOU/TENN
KC/SD
TB/NO (did game b/w these two in Week 2)
OFF WEEK (has only had one off week)
Walt Coleman is OFF this week
Vinovich and crew are eligible for:
GB/CHI
PHIL/DAL
DET/MIN
WASH/NYG
SF/ARZ
NYJ/MIA
BALT/CIN
CLE/PIT
Gene Steratore has to do eagles/dal.
Of course, he’s eligible for PHI @ DAL.
Terry McAulay is eligible for HOU @ TEN.
Shane Spencer- Terry McAulay is the Man for HOU @ TEN – Via Titans Flip Card.
Where is the link to confirm? ‘Cause I can’t find it.
Not a flip card, but on page 2 they have McAulay – http://prod.static.titans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/titans_texans_2013b.pdf
Exactly , Thanks for the Correct Information.
Parry and crew eligible for:
CAR/ATL
BUF/NE (Hochuli confirmed)
DET/MIN (did game b/w these two in Week 1)
PHIL/DAL (did game b/w these two in Week 7)
WASH/NYG (did Redskins in Week 12 and Giants in Week 6)
Corrente and crew eligible for:
DET/MIN
GB/CHI
BALT/CIN
CLE/PIT
STL/SEA
DEN/OAK
CAR/ATL (did game b/w these two in Week 9)
Let’s put all the conjecture to rest… my usual Ravens source (a real champ, so grateful) says that, for the third time this year, the Ravens will have SCOTT GREEN in the white hat for the pivotal clash at CIN… Green did Preseason Week 1 and Week Nine as well, so he remained eligible…
Everytime I look at Ravens games it always seems like Green or Steratore lol. Thanks for the info as always Joe.
You’re welcome, Ken, and you’re right about SG and GS. It’s like they’re ALWAYS around!
Very well we get Scott. Thank you Joe and Happy Holidays to all 🙂
Bill Leavy is confirmed for Chiefs-Chargers
Ron Winter for Broncos at Raiders
Triplette is in for either Rams @ Seahawks or Jets @ Dolphins
Looks like McAulay either has HOU/TEN or is off.
McAulay is in Tennessee – that’s confirmed here http://prod.static.titans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/titans_texans_2013b.pdf
Car v AtL ??
Gene Steratore and crew confirmed for the SUNDAY NIGHT Philadelphia at Dallas winner-take-all (or at least a playoff berth). ESPN Dallas.
so far then we have:::
Carolina at Atlanta
Detroit at Minnesota
Green Bay at Chicago
Baltimore at Cincinnati – Scott Green
Philadelphia at Dallas – Gene Steratore
Houston at Tennessee – Terry McAulay
Jacksonville at Indianapolis
Cleveland at Pittsburgh
NY Jets at Miami
Buffalo at New England – Ed Hochuli
Tampa Bay at New Orleans
Washington at NY Giants
San Francisco at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego – Bill Leavy
St. Louis at Seattle – Jeff Triplette (?)
Denver at Oakland – Ron Winter
Carl Cheffers got confirmed for TB @ NO via Ref Fan.
Walt Anderson got confirmed for SF @ ARI via Mark.
I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas and hopefully everyone enjoys Christmas today!
Bill Vinovich is eligible for CLE @ PIT (he did CLE @ BAL back in Week 2, but no Steelers games yet this season).
Brakeman is in chicago
Where did you confirm it from?
Blakeman
Corrente, Blakeman & Parry are eligible for Packers/Bears. Corrente did Packers week 2 and no Bears yet. Blakeman did Bears week 7 and Packers week 3. Parry did Bears week 6 and no Packers yet.
Hi Mickey
Carl Cheffers’ crew in New Orleans, December 29th. (Tampa Bay Bucanners @ New Orleans Saints)
After looking it over- It appears the following?
JAX @ IND – Morelli
Also a good possibility:
CAR @ ATL – Parry
Also appears:
DET @ MIN – Corrente
WSH @ NYG – Vinovich
&
NYJ @ MIA – Boger
CLE @ PIT – M. Carey
confirmed
Spoke to Blakeman today……he confirmed that he will indeed be in Chicago
Triplette has STL @ SEA
List:
Panthers at Falcons — John Parry
Ravens at Bengals — Scott Green
Jaguars at Colts — Pete Morelli
Jets at Dolphins — Jerome Boger
Lions at Vikings — Tony Corrente
Redskins at Giants — Bill Vinovich
Browns at Steelers — Mike Carey
Texans at Titans — Terry McAulay
49ers at Cardinals — Walt Anderson
Broncos at Raiders — Ron Winter
Chiefs at Chargers — Bill Leavy
Rams at Seahawks — Jeff Triplette
Bills at Patriots — Ed Hochuli
Buccaneers at Saints — Carl Cheffers
Packers at Bears — Clete Blakeman
Eagles at Cowboys NBC — Gene Steratore
Walt Coleman has the week off
Crucial game of the year and “Botch the Game” Blakeman is going to Chicago. I like Steratore in Philly.
They just mentioned during the Ravens game that this will be Scott Green’s last season. He’s been a good official and wish him the best.
His SJ, Larry Rose (#128), who also has a Super Bowl to his credit is also retiring
Jim Nantz announced on the Balt-Cin telecast that Scott Green was retiring after this game. Unlike the NHL, don’t retiring NFL officials still get to work the playoffs?
If eligible they will but if they do not rank highly enough they will usually get the Pro Bowl as a going away gift
Sitting in the stadium in New Orleans watching Cheffers and his crew do a terrible job. It’s hard to say who is worse, Cheffers or Steratore. Too bad Scott Green is retiring. He is one of the good ones.
I’ve seen much better crews than Cheffers and company work high school games.
Scott Green is a mediocre ref. Cheffers is no good. and I find it hard to believe Leavy gets a playoff game after the messy San Diego game this past weekend.
I left a prior message that seems to have been removed.
Since Scott Green may be retiring, does this increase his chances of being named Super Bowl referee? Also, Ron Winter has been a referee for many years. Do you folks think he finally deserves to be referee at a Super Bowl?
It does not increase or decrease anything, if he was not worthy of a playoff game they will probably give him pro bowl. But he could get a game. Winter had a decent year, but is one of the more controversial guys in the league.
Ron Winter doesn’t deserve to referee a turkey bowl of over-40s playing half-lit on a frozen high school field, much less a Super Bowl. Are you kidding, or related to him?
No Im not. My theory is that we have 11 playoff games and the pro bowl which means 12 of the 17 guys will get a game. So many other people have made ridiculous mistakes.. Leavy, Tripplette, Blakeman that he may get a playoff game. I dont want him in the super bowl.
Yahoo Sports News reports that the Chargers should have been assessed a 5 yd penalty on KC kicker Succop’s missed FG at the end of the game, and he should have had a chance to re-kick. That would potentially have made a very big difference in the outcome of the game, and the playoff picture. If this is true, Bill Leavy’s crew made a major error.
They did and I doubt they will be getting a playoff game after that
First of all, there was definitely an error there. Leavy’s had a tough year with several major mistakes.
However, for Mike Tomlin to be irate about this is something I’m not so sure about. He is quick to forget his little sideline dalliance in Baltimore. That should have been a penalty as well.
Clete bleakman is the WORST nfl official I have EVER
Seen !! He missed welker holding on key
Play 3rd qtr chargers and also missed the
Call pass inteference he calked in welker 4 second
Late … Obvious he has an agenda
Please replace this clown for integrity of NFL